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Bono: the book, the show and the movie

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Bono wrote Surrender: 40 Songs And One Story in 2022. Here's what I wrote at the time (in the archived Books thread):

Surrender: 40 Songs One Story
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So this is the rehabilitation of the much vilified, intolerable terrible singer Bono. "Oh", says the sceptic, "Maybe we misjudged him". Maybe you did.

He's always had a sense of humour, a self-deprecation that says he is fully aware of his absurdity. He turned it into an album and a tour with Achtung Baby and ZooTV. "I'm ready, ready for the laughing gas, I'm ready for what's next" rages the intro of Zoo Station as he goosesteps from behind the industrial-sized TVs. The heart on his sleeve, working in African aid-camps - it was always pretty pompous, wasn't it? And yet it wasn't an act, it was merely the warm up for his workings inside American politics, getting an audience with the Pope, raising billions for those in poverty through no fault of their own. He simply felt the world was a mess and he was in a position to try to help a bit.

Is that such a crime?

The origin story is pretty well known - 16 year old Larry puts up an ad on the school noticeboard - "drummer wants to join band". They were terrible musicians, unable to play other people's songs so wrote their own. There was always a messianic zeal, not for action against poverty but.... well, what? What was it about those gigs that went from 9 in a pub to 90,000 in a stadium that felt so urgent, so important? A Christian band who - somehow - had punks singing psalms on their way home. Were they tapping into the eternal? As I saw them at the Hammersmith Palais in 1982, it sure felt like it. The image is seared into my brain that I saw from the balcony of a floor made of people jumping up and down as one for the entire gig - anyone stupid enough not to go with the flow would be simply ripped to shreds. And the reason this scrawny 15 year old had retreated to the relative safety of the balcony.

I'd love to be scrawny again.

Anyway. Think what you like about Bono's singing voice (he's far from keen himself), but there's nothing wrong with his literary voice. Every sentance of this 500 page book feels poetic, crafted (and skillfully undermined for comic effect). We meet his childhood friends who all lived in their fictitious Lypton Village. We meet Michael Hutchence, Steve Jobs, Nelson Mandela, George Bush, Johnny Cash - personal stories. We bask in the south of France, are haunted in African refugee camps, crash at the White House and walk the same Dublin streets he has his whole life. One regular family Sunday the doorbell rings and his wife Ali answers. It's Michael Gorbachev. "Oh shit, I forgot to tell you" says Bono to Ali. That right there tells you much of what you need to know about Bono's life.

It's fascinating. It's deeply personal, with no squeamishness talking about his faith, quoting the New Testament liberally, his relationship with his father and mother Iris who died when he was 14, the 50 year love affair with his wife Ali, warts and all. In his After Words, he writes "Jordan, Eve, Eli and John gave me permission to write about their lives" (his 4 children). "I believe there's a good chance that Ali will at some point".

He's funny.

He talks about money and - yes- tax. And inflicting an album on Apple users they didn't want.

In 2022, Larry's school band still has the same members, the singer even has the same childhood sweetheart as his wife. It's inspiring to me to see religious faith be the driving force for good when we so often see it as a motivation for horrors. I love the sonic diversity of the band, from Out Of Control to New Year's Day to Angel Of Harlem to Sweetest Thing to Zooropa to One to With Or Without You to Song For Someone. The many faces of U2 are all here. But even if you don't care so much for the band as I do, if there's something about this small mad with big ideas that remotely interests you, I can recommend Surrender wholeheartedly.

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Bono then turned the book into a one-man show which got some rapturous reviews. Of course a film crew were there to document it, and the results are out now.

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Bono: Stories of Surrender
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5 minutes in, and I think - oh boy, this is gonna be insufferable.

Bono's poetic writing works very well on the page. But there's no avoiding the man when it's now him on stage, an awkward combination of monumental ego and soul searching presented for public consumption. If the man rubs you up the wrong way, there's nowhere to hide. In the opening minutes we are offered a very theatrical retelling of the time he nearly died from heart trouble in 2016, segueing into a first song.

Oh boy.

I very nearly gave up there and then. But I thought I'll give it a few minutes more and stayed to the end. Perhaps its the perfect opener - if you make it through that, the whole theatrical and personal schtick kinda locks into place. The music - preformed by a trio of cello, harp, percussion and synths - works seamlessly and the re-imagining of the back catalogue makes much more sense on stage than on record. It glues it all together.

Pretty much all great artists turn their pain and sorrow into art somehow. It's just not usually this on-the-nose. But for me it worked. Those closest to him seem to have been distinctly unimpressed with his artistic or philanthropic achievements, and that's interesting. When you've helped feed the world, conquer AIDS and simultaneously been in the biggest band in the world and it's seemingly STILL not enough for approval from your Dad, it's quite a leveller between artist and audience.

Much that was in the books - and I understand in the show - didn't make the final cut, but it's the right length at under 90 minutes. I found myself drifting, but in a good way - the confluence of art, humour and pain was potent enough for me to reflect on my own private journey, with this band always somewhere in the background.

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I don't care anymore how Bono writes as your writing is sublime Guy haha. If he ever decides to have somebody writing up his biography, you should be the man ;)

But thank you so much for putting this up. Very interesting and I probably would not picked up his book if I saw it before your post, but it makes me curious now.
My tolerance for hearing and seeing Bono is a bit like the Dutch weather.... highly unpredictable.

As a band I have a weak spot for the early U2 as I have always had a deep interest in the history of the Troubles since I was a teenager and for me U2 was a big part of discovering the history of the Troubles as I found Sunday Bloody Sunday a very interesting and impressive song when I heard it for the first time.


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The troubles is a great example of why U2, for all their many detractors, are something extraordinary. This photo:

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This was shortly before the referendum on the Good Friday agreement - the two enemies either side of Bono. The vote was in the balance. The gig was 2,000 school leavers. Bono agreed as long as there were no speeches (full story here - https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/ ... rn-ireland )

U2 eventually wrote a song called The Troubles which they performed with Lykke Li. I'm very fond of it. Intriguingly, I'm not sure it's about The Troubles...


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Yeah I read that in one of the books I read a few years ago and it's very impressive as it shows what influence rock and pop stars can have, specially if they wield their influence in a good way.
Don't know that song, going to take a listen.


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OT, but “Say Anything” is a must read.

Good review, Guy. Not sure if I’ll read it, but I’ve always been fond of U2


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Unfathomable to think that after all he's accomplished, whether it subjectively pleases someone or not, there is still a disconnect in the family. I nearly cannot wrap my head around that; taking the music out of it, the activist side of it would surely be enough to canonize him as saint by now, well, minus the actual miracles.

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Lawrence wrote: Jun 02, 2025 12:16 pm OT, but “Say Anything” is a must read.

Good review, Guy. Not sure if I’ll read it, but I’ve always been fond of U2
You mean Say Nothing I think? And read that indeed. Saw they also made a serie from it, but maybe that should be in another topic.


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Jaap wrote: Jun 02, 2025 1:40 pm
Lawrence wrote: Jun 02, 2025 12:16 pm OT, but “Say Anything” is a must read.

Good review, Guy. Not sure if I’ll read it, but I’ve always been fond of U2
You mean Say Nothing I think? And read that indeed. Saw they also made a serie from it, but maybe that should be in another topic.
Of course I do, thanks ;) yes, both book and series are excellent. The book has more color.


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Guy, that's a fantastic write-up, and it's convinced me to read the book and avoid the videos. I think I'll enjoy it quite a bit for all the reasons you indicate... I'll always have a strong fondness for all the U2 records up to, and including, "Zooropa," particularly everything Daniel Lanois and/or Brian Eno had a hand in. Those were actually some of the first records I fell in love with, before I became the incorrigible snob I am today. Those earnest lads really meant it, and they were honestly quite bright and naturally musical, unschooled as they were.

Many years ago, I was backstage with the great bassist Tim Lefebvre at some venue near Washington DC, we were playing with different bands on the same tour. He found a vinyl of "The Unforgettable Fire" on the bookshelf, probably my favorite U2 album to this day, and said something along the lines of "this is a great record." And I agree, it stands up today. It's honest, well-written, and sounds great.


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Part of the U2 alchemy has been their producers. Aside from a rough and ready Irish EP Out Of Control, their first "proper" single was 11 O Clock Tick Tock (which would be no 1 for many years in the annual Irish Hot Press readers poll, even though the studio recording was never on an album). Martin Hannett produced. They first met while mid-session of Joy Division's Love Will Tear Us Apart, but their collaboration was to be brief. Martin was a technical obsessive, wanting absolute sonic control. There's no denying he produced great work, but sonically their collaboration felt... small, and sounds of its time



(these album images are all wrong, the above WASN'T on Boy, and the image below is from their Greatest Hits LP).

Compare and contrast the first track on their debut album, Boy, produced by Steve Lillywhite. The opening 30 seconds still give me goosebumps to this day - the starting up of the 1/4", the sense of space, that ambient glockenspiel way up in the mix against all the rules of rock and roll. The ENERGY. Lillywhite somehow managed to capture the soul of the band without being slavish to how they sounded live - there's bicycle spokes and crashing metal in there, overdubs of screeching ambient guitars.



...and I'm 15 again.

After three classics, I was crushed when they got some other bloke called Brian Eno with his mate Danny Lanois on The Unforgettable Fire, but of course it was the right choice, stretching their sonic wings further.

There's a great video of them recording Pride (the most conventional U2 track on the album), and Bono making it up as he went along. His body language is interesting, he looks very vulnerable and uncomfortable between takes, then throws his lungs out of his mouth at the mic.



EDGE: "I don't think we've peaked".
ENO: "Do you want to go out and peak then?"

The whole documentary is out there, watched that a ton as a kid.


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...and before I get on with what I should be doing today, perhaps a special mention of Larry Mullen Jr's drumming.

YouTube, knowing me well, threw this at me the other day. Sina is a 25 year old German drummer who has 10 trillion subscribers because not only is she technically astonishing, she looks like she does too. But I hadn't appreciated just how complex Larry's drumming was until I watched her do it with the drums so high in the mix, so skillfully ramping up the energy across the whole 5 minutes. Kudos to them both.



(If you liked that, look up her doing Rush's Spirit Of Radio - bloody 'ell).


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Great points, and I wholeheartedly agree about the production. Lillywhite, Eno, and Lanois are all central to why those '80s and early '90s records of theirs sound and feel so damn good. Those guys knew how to get the best out of the Irishmen.

Musically speaking, in terms of the band members themselves, Larry Mullen and David Evans/Edge are certainly the strongest contributors. Mullen is a pretty awesome drummer and I don't really know how or why he got so good considering his origins. The Edge clearly has a natural mind for sound design and getting the most out of whatever tools he has available. I still love his guitar sounds on everything from War to Zooropa.

Funny you mention Rush, I'm in Toronto for a gig... flew into YYZ yesterday afternoon. Lovely time of year to be here too.


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progger wrote: Jun 21, 2025 12:27 pm Great points, and I wholeheartedly agree about the production. Lillywhite, Eno, and Lanois are all central to why those '80s and early '90s records of theirs sound and feel so damn good. Those guys knew how to get the best out of the Irishmen.

Musically speaking, in terms of the band members themselves, Larry Mullen and David Evans/Edge are certainly the strongest contributors. Mullen is a pretty awesome drummer and I don't really know how or why he got so good considering his origins. The Edge clearly has a natural mind for sound design and getting the most out of whatever tools he has available. I still love his guitar sounds on everything from War to Zooropa.

Funny you mention Rush, I'm in Toronto for a gig... flew into YYZ yesterday afternoon. Lovely time of year to be here too.
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progger wrote: Jun 21, 2025 12:27 pm Musically speaking, in terms of the band members themselves, Larry Mullen and David Evans/Edge are certainly the strongest contributors.
Adam Clayton gets a bad rap and he's clearly not the strongest technically I agree, but so many of his lines make the song - he's an essential part of the whole.

As for The Edge... a true genius. No-one else sounded like him, and above anything else he is what makes U2 sound like U2. Totally his own man and I love that.

I'm not a big Rush fan (Spirit of Radio is mighty though) but hope it's a great gig!


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Briefly back to Bono, I just remembered my favourite quote of his.

"Religion is what happens when God leaves".


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Oh man now I'm fully back in a U2 appreciation phase, and YouTube keeps throwing me stuff. This time it's good ol' Rick Beato:



I saw the title and thought "oh yeah, New Year's Day, cracking melody".

But - God bless him - he picks an album track that they never play live to praise to the skies. I've always adored Drowning Man, and Rick does a great job of picking out all of its strangeness and beauty - just two endlessly swapping chords, drums in 4/4, bass in 6/4, lyrics in... something... and it's sublime. Love the instrumentation - the acoustic guitar and brushed drums dominate, but those harmonics and ebow guitars with Steve Wickham's violin are pretty special. The overall effect captures something of nature somehow, can't explain it.

It sounds like waves.

Bono's voice. I know he can overdo it. But this could be one of his finest performances. First verse low register, second high and then he lets rip. And Rick is right, the melody is effortlessly perfect.

I really like Rick. His passion, knowledge and enthusiasm, his broad appreciation and not wanting to be pigeon-holed.

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I am afraid I have to block you, mute you, ignore you for a while Guy :D
Loads of great stuff and ruining my workday!

But seriously, that made me take a whole new listen again to the Larry's drumming.

Just realised again how much energy U2 has on many levels. The drumming, the intense Bono, the uncatchable and very a-typical guitar style of The Edge. What I sort of love about Adam Clayton is that his simple playstyle is very functional and leaves everything open for the other 3. I think if Adam would have been a super bass player with a lot of presence in both his style and sound, U2 would not have been able to sound as they sound now.


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Hell yeah, I'm all about this early U2 love-fest. I can still put on all their records up to, and including, Zooropa and enjoy them. (Everything after that, not so much.)

I think the key is really honesty. They were very, VERY genuine, clearly so, in every aspect of what they did, and they had some serious things to protest in Ireland at the time. Genuinely powerful music coming from people who really cared, and had just the right mix of abilities to bring it to life (along with, as mentioned, some seriously brilliant producers).

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