Thanks Guy, that clarifies it for me. Really looking forward to your video, even if it's like seeing the inside of Fort Knox, a place I could never get into personally. Perhaps there will be a 99 percent off sale someday.Guy Rowland wrote:X - I don't think this has changed in 2.0, but it's 1 nki per instrument and mike (4 mic options for most instruments). All the articulations are keyswitches, some momentary, some latched.
Larry - forgot to say I've never done a BBB demo as such, it's nearly always combined with other instruments. I often want more bite from the trumpets for example - it's a far more pleasing and realistic tone than CHH's, but the downside is that it's quite timid. The Swing trumpet ensembles really are the sound I've been waiting for there - real bite but without plasticity.
Piet- I get what your saying. I suppose I should clarify. Under $80 I can (and have) taken chances on developers. Under $20 I may even get it just to see what it is and how the developer works (I did this with Embertone), but clearly I can handle the loss if I'm wrong, Even with these really cheap libraries I've gotten some kind of walkthrough video or good idea of what I'm buying before I consider it. Yet BBB is still something of a mystery to those who don't own it. That just strikes me as odd.
Above that $80 point I am normally not surprised, and that is usually because I stick with developers I feel I can trust. Reviews by objective third parties (Sounds and gear, VIcontrol, here, etc) have really helped me to find those developers without a $500 mistake, but I've had to wait more than once beyond the intro offer to find more of those independent reviews. All the years BBB has been out and I still can't find enough info to make an informed decision in that regard, to me that speaks volumes. At this point (but granted not when BBB was released) there are enough reliable companies to stay on firm ground when spending hundreds of dollars. Project Sam, Orchestral Tools, Cinesamples, Sample Modeling, Spitfire, Heavyocity, Ilya Efimov, Soniccouture, Soundiron, Chocolate Audio, Orange Tree, Indiginous, Embertone, Mod Wheel, Boulder Sounds, Frozen Plain, Realitone,... are all reliable and provide enough information (along with outside reviews) to make a decision. I don't believe one of them have missed a release by more than a day or two, and all of them are concerned with their customers satisfaction.
When speaking with Yuval (I've connected with him on facebook when he wrote me to chew me out about making a comment about his tardiness- and of course he deleted all of my comments) I can see he is passionate (to put it politely) but he is certainly not concerned with customers, no matter how much you spend. Otherwise his communications skills would have improved, especially when he runs into a snag (is there such a thing as a 5 year snag?).
All that said I'm glad you are happy with the library. Perhaps getting the right big band sound is just difficult, and especially when this was released it was surely a breakthrough in this area. After seeing Fable sound's booth at NAMM A few years in a row recently I would have thought they would have more products (or something more recently released), but no. I'm surprised this one product could support this company and all it's expenses for so long, but perhaps that is why he needs BBB's price to be so high. It's just not something I would want to support, to that extent (yes, at $17, I would buy him lunch for it). But that is a choice each person must make, and I realize the right sound can be more of a concern once the price is paid. Especially if well paying gigs will cover the cost.