There is a thread in the legacy section of the forum about the joy of a perfect and pure pop song - https://thesoundboard.net/viewtopic.php?p=3018. Time for a sequel thread in The Arts.
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Pure Pop II
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Guy Rowland
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Re: Pure Pop II
Don't me wrong, I've had a crush on Ms. Grant since she first surfaced (just one of the reasons I envy Vince Gill, his voice and guitar chops also play a part!).
She is a remarkably talented artist!, and your example is definitely pop, but I think her foray into pop was not quite sincere. The songs just don't ring true to me (I could be alone on that).
She has, needless to say, matured over the years, as has her music, but those early attempts to crossover did not work for me.
It might also have something to do with my definition of great pop, which includes folks like XTC and Big Star, among others...
Still, I am glad you resurrected the thread!
She is a remarkably talented artist!, and your example is definitely pop, but I think her foray into pop was not quite sincere. The songs just don't ring true to me (I could be alone on that).
She has, needless to say, matured over the years, as has her music, but those early attempts to crossover did not work for me.
It might also have something to do with my definition of great pop, which includes folks like XTC and Big Star, among others...
Still, I am glad you resurrected the thread!
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Guy Rowland
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Re: Pure Pop II
XTC! This gem has one of the oddest verses - it genuinely sounds like they were drunkenly mucking about - and most sublime pop choruses:
Pop trivia - Thomas Dolby started out his musical career as a roadie for XTC.
Pop trivia - Thomas Dolby started out his musical career as a roadie for XTC.
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I recently read Bananarama's biography. It was rather charming, wholesome and thoroughly recommended for getting to sleep. What I like about them is they were so DIY - they did their own clothes which went against the trend, they were absolutely not manufactured and they co-wrote most of their big hits. Very much their own people.
Always thought this was a brilliantly crafted pop song. A classic happy-sad, something really melancholic about it.
Always thought this was a brilliantly crafted pop song. A classic happy-sad, something really melancholic about it.
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I have two gold-standards for pop music, one for the "soul/RnB" side and one for the "rock" side of things.
For my taste, the perfect pop song/recording/production on the "soul/RnB" side is Michael Jackson's "Rock With You." I love it every time I hear it, to this day, even after playing it hundreds or thousands of times on gigs.
On the rock side of things, I think it has to go to "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" by Tears For Fears. Although "Head Over Heels" could swap for it... hard to say which one deserves the gold. Both are pop/rock perfection, IMO.
For my taste, the perfect pop song/recording/production on the "soul/RnB" side is Michael Jackson's "Rock With You." I love it every time I hear it, to this day, even after playing it hundreds or thousands of times on gigs.
On the rock side of things, I think it has to go to "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" by Tears For Fears. Although "Head Over Heels" could swap for it... hard to say which one deserves the gold. Both are pop/rock perfection, IMO.
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Re: Pure Pop II
Forgive me if this is a little long.
Since I resumed performing in multi-performer shows, I've usually been the only Brill Building-ish kind of guy.. Most of them are Folk=Americana.
I was chatting with one of them who is well known as a comedy writer, Tracy Newman and I remarked to her that I often felt like a duck in a barnyard of chickens.
She said, "You are! Do you know who you are, Jay? You're Neil Sedaka."
This was before he passed away. Got me thinking, and so I decided:
Since I resumed performing in multi-performer shows, I've usually been the only Brill Building-ish kind of guy.. Most of them are Folk=Americana.
I was chatting with one of them who is well known as a comedy writer, Tracy Newman and I remarked to her that I often felt like a duck in a barnyard of chickens.
She said, "You are! Do you know who you are, Jay? You're Neil Sedaka."
This was before he passed away. Got me thinking, and so I decided:
Charlie Clouser: " I have no interest in, and no need to create, "realistic orchestral mockups". That way lies madness."
www.jayasher.com
www.jayasher.com