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Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Sep 30, 2022 6:25 am
by doctoremmet
https://www.acousticsamples.net/vhornssaxophones
It appears to be an SATB sax quartet. Maybe with two instrument variations, like how they approached the earlier trumpet / flugelhorn iteration. If this collection is as good as that one, I for one am very much looking forward to it. Demos sound promising.
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Sep 30, 2022 6:54 am
by doctoremmet
The link in the Soundcloud demos leads to a placeholder web page. But I guess the release is imminent.
Playlist here:
https://on.soundcloud.com/HquDh14BzhLmBsv17
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Sep 30, 2022 12:56 pm
by Piet De Ridder
Very impressive. They also sit nicely together, as "Christmas Jazz Favorites #3" illustrates.
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Sep 30, 2022 12:58 pm
by doctoremmet
I have the feeling I may have finally found “my” saxophone VI… ;-)
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Sep 30, 2022 1:24 pm
by Lawrence
I think I’ve found my next.
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Sep 30, 2022 2:36 pm
by Geoff Grace
Sounds promising.
If I recall correctly, the intro price of VHorns Brass Section was 159€; so I won't be surprised to see a similar price for VHorns Sax Section, if it's released as a separate product, rather than as an upgrade.
Best,
Geoff
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Sep 30, 2022 3:52 pm
by Piet De Ridder
It's €149. Just bought it, a minute ago.
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Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Sep 30, 2022 4:08 pm
by Geoff Grace
Good to know. Thanks, Piet!
Best,
Geoff
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Sep 30, 2022 4:21 pm
by Piet De Ridder
My earlier 'very impressive' doesn't cover the facts. It's unbelievably impressive.
After loading, the instruments still seem to require quite some time to fully instantiate though. Got me worried there for a few half minutes (one half-a-minute for each saxophone), but they all emerge eventually. (Still, this doesn't happen with the brass instruments.) I'm also having some trouble getting the glides to work, even after checking and trying out all the relevant settings, but perhaps I'm doing or not doing something that you shouldn't or should do. After all, it's only been 10 minutes after installation.
But this is a milestone in saxophone emulation, no doubt about it.
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Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Sep 30, 2022 4:25 pm
by bbunker
I didn't realize this morning that I was going to spend the afternoon lusting after some saxophones. Funny how the world works. Honestly at the price (and the exchange rate, unfortunately for my European colleagues) I don't know how long I can go on not having these in my life.
Honestly, the only thing keeping me so far is that I know that now I'm going to want the brass as well, and I'm wondering if there's going to be a full big band bundle in the works. If not - why not???
So - anybody got a shout chorus in them to break my willpower?
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 01, 2022 11:37 am
by Ashermusic
Arnaud lied to me, promised me a beta:)
But since I love V-Horns so much, I will forgive him and buy these, especially in light of Piet's mini review
Bye, bye Broadway Big Band, you served me well, but we probably now will largely part company.
EDIT: Bought and installed, only played for 15 minutes but oh, boy, totally worth it.
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 02, 2022 1:18 pm
by RobS
in my opinion best sax emulation so far, even better than swam, though this latter still has maybe a bit more flexibility... and a good endorsement for uvi
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 04, 2022 4:22 pm
by Ashermusic
BTW, for those of you who don't know, while Stan Kenton, Thad Jones, and others monkeyed around with seating, this is the most common.
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 05, 2022 10:59 am
by Niah
Yea, these are just unmatched, absolutely incredible. Big achievement here no doubt.
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 06, 2022 11:44 am
by doctoremmet
Acousticsamples just posted an announcement of this fine instrument on VI-C while teasing what looks like V-Horns “Low Brass”.
https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... st-5194626
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 07, 2022 7:04 am
by RobS
maybe a solo tuba library...
Temme, while I'm at it, do you think the V-horns trumpets and bones can have the noble timbre of classical orchestral brass? From the demos they seem to be mostly jazzy oriented
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 07, 2022 10:16 am
by doctoremmet
I have no clue, could very well be a solo library, although they did post the little audio file in response to me asking about bass trombones, cimbassi and such instruments. Flutes and other winds seem to be planned as well (but have not been recorded yet).
I don’t think the V-Horns libraries are limited to jazz use cases. Personally I hardly ever record that type of music with VIs anyway. Although maybe the majority of the user base ends up using them like that or in big band mockups and the like. My own preferred use of them is in “neo classical” SATB sax quartet music, and as solo instruments in -for lack of a better word- cinematic music. Note: I have never been near a real film score or whatever, as I am merely a hobby musician. Anyway, I would not dismiss them outright for any orchestral solo work but they wouldn’t be first picks.
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 07, 2022 11:01 am
by RobS
doctoremmet wrote: ↑Oct 07, 2022 10:16 am
I have no clue, could very well be a solo library, although they did post the little audio file in response to me asking about bass trombones, cimbassi and such instruments. Flutes and other winds seem to be planned as well (but have not been recorded yet).
I don’t think the V-Horns libraries are limited to jazz use cases. Personally I hardly ever record that type of music with VIs anyway. Although maybe the majority of the user base ends up using them like that or in big band mockups and the like. My own preferred use of them is in “neo classical” SATB sax quartet music, and as solo instruments in -for lack of a better word- cinematic music. Note: I have never been near a real film score or whatever, as I am merely a hobby musician. Anyway, I would not dismiss them outright for any orchestral solo work but they wouldn’t be first picks.
thank you, I'm considering buying the brass, if they are as expressive as their sax counterpart...
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 07, 2022 11:15 am
by Ashermusic
RobS wrote: ↑Oct 07, 2022 11:01 am
thank you, I'm considering buying the brass, if they are as expressive as their sax counterpart...
They are. Steve Porcaro of Toto fame heard the flugelhorn solo on my song demo for “And So It Begins” and immediately sent me a text message asking what it was and where he could buy it. And I probably spent all of twenty minutes playing and editing the solo.
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 07, 2022 11:23 am
by RobS
Ashermusic wrote: ↑Oct 07, 2022 11:15 am
RobS wrote: ↑Oct 07, 2022 11:01 am
thank you, I'm considering buying the brass, if they are as expressive as their sax counterpart...
They are. Steve Porcaro of Toto fame heard the flugelhorn solo on my song demo for “And So It Begins” and immediately sent me a text message asking what it was and where he could buy it. And I probably spent all of twenty minutes playing and editing the solo.
ha that's great Jay!
just purchased...
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 07, 2022 12:30 pm
by doctoremmet
Ashermusic wrote: ↑Oct 07, 2022 11:15 am
RobS wrote: ↑Oct 07, 2022 11:01 am
thank you, I'm considering buying the brass, if they are as expressive as their sax counterpart...
They are. Steve Porcaro of Toto fame heard the flugelhorn solo on my song demo for “And So It Begins” and immediately sent me a text message asking what it was and where he could buy it. And I probably spent all of twenty minutes playing and editing the solo.
That’s awesome.
And yes I concur, the brass sounds excellent. Rob - I think our fellow contributor Piet did quite the elaborate review when the instruments were released. In fact, it was his review that peaked my interest.
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 07, 2022 3:50 pm
by RobS
doctoremmet wrote: ↑Oct 07, 2022 12:30 pm
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And yes I concur, the brass sounds excellent. Rob - I think our fellow contributor Piet did quite the elaborate review when the instruments were released. In fact, it was his review that peaked my interest.
I need some time to do an appropriate test, my first impression isn't as enthusiastic as with the saxes... we'll see
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 07, 2022 3:59 pm
by Lawrence
Assuming I went with the AS saxes (which I plan to), I think I’d still stick with SM The Trumpet. That would leave bones, as I like the SM bones but feel there could be meatier samples out there.Thoughts?
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 07, 2022 5:27 pm
by RobS
I don't know Larry, the reason why I bought V-horns is exactly because I'm not satisfied with what I have... Cinebrass core and pro, Chris Hein orchestral brass (compact), VSL special edition, the old EWQLSO, plus SM trumpet and bone and Audiomodeling Brass. And Wivi which despite its age still finds a place every now and then in my tracks. So I hope this last library will reveal itself to be useful not only for jazz but also for classical settings, which are part of my job.
Re: Acousticsamples V-Horns saxes spotted
Posted: Oct 07, 2022 5:46 pm
by Ashermusic
RobS wrote: ↑Oct 07, 2022 5:27 pm
I don't know Larry, the reason why I bought V-horns is exactly because I'm not satisfied with what I have... Cinebrass core and pro, Chris Hein orchestral brass (compact), VSL special edition, the old EWQLSO, plus SM trumpet and bone and Audiomodeling Brass. And Wivi which despite its age still finds a place every now and then in my tracks. So I hope this last library will reveal itself to be useful not only for jazz but also for classical settings, which are part of my job.
I do think the V-Brass are better suited for jazz and pop/rock. Which is what I wanted because I have plenty of classical horns I am ok with.