Lawrence wrote: ↑Jul 13, 2023 7:43 pm
Another nice thing re VSL-I own VEP (a few versions), one BBO and SE winds and that’s it from Vienna.
When the iLok transition happened, they turned SE winds into SE basic, giving me all of the instruments of the basic SE orchestra. Damn generous.
The folks at VSL, like Paul Kopf, are really good people and Vienna Ensemble Pro is genius software.
I wish I liked their libraries more, but they just don’t suit me.
Definitely a horses for courses thing, but I loved my SE Winds on most levels, and I recently did an arrangement for a client using my new free SE solo strings. I was pleasantly surprised.
Agreed on VEP, allowed me to keep running a Mac Pro 2008 (!) til 2019.
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Jul 21, 2023 10:53 am
by Muziksculp
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Jul 21, 2023 1:32 pm
by Muziksculp
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Jul 22, 2023 3:41 am
by Snarf
Piet De Ridder wrote: ↑Jul 13, 2023 5:35 am
Second quick example: both violin sections. First the Violins I in another slow meandering phrase, followed by something else for the Violins II. Listen especially to the longer-held sustains. I’m sorry, but there’s not a single second here I like the sound of.
And I started so I might as well do the lot: here are the cellos.
I have decided : I am following Rich's wise example.
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Hi Piet, it seems the audio links are taken down. Would you mind sharing the audio examples with me? I enjoyed reading your thoughts on Duality Strings and would like to hear them. Thanks!
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Jul 22, 2023 6:03 am
by Piet De Ridder
Not sure I still have them, Snarf. Since mid last week I'm officially an ex-owner of the Dualities and I removed everything related to this library (*), including my folder with tests, little exercises and audio examples, from my HD. But I'll have a quick look, there still might be a copy in the folder from where I upload.
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No, very sorry, Snarf, I'm afraid it's all gone. No big loss however as nearly all of the audio examples posted in VI's Duality thread (not the commercial one) have that sound which I don't like and they confirm, to me anyway, that returning this library to store was a good idea. Ed's little fragment of The Sacre, for example (eyebrows-raising bad sound, I find), and all the clips that Dan has posted — I'm strictly talking about the sound of the samples here, not Dan's wonderful music, which is the only thing I enjoyed in that thread — not in the least his Mozart mock-up (which lacks all the breezy luminosity I think the music needs), simply don't appeal to me. Not wild about the sound of the strings in Bacal's Horner mock-up posted above either (but the music itself has something to do with that as well).
Again, my apologies.
(*) Appreciation for VSL: they make no fuss about a customer returning a product, only express a little regret (totally understandable), and everything is handled smoothly and correctly.
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Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Jul 22, 2023 12:52 pm
by Muziksculp
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Jul 23, 2023 11:55 am
by Muziksculp
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Jul 24, 2023 3:10 pm
by Snarf
Piet De Ridder wrote: ↑Jul 22, 2023 6:03 am
Not sure I still have them, Snarf. Since mid last week I'm officially an ex-owner of the Dualities and I removed everything related to this library (*), including my folder with tests, little exercises and audio examples, from my HD. But I'll have a quick look, there still might be a copy in the folder from where I upload.
[...]
No, very sorry, Snarf, I'm afraid it's all gone. No big loss however as nearly all of the audio examples posted in VI's Duality thread (not the commercial one) have that sound which I don't like and they confirm, to me anyway, that returning this library to store was a good idea. Ed's little fragment of The Sacre, for example (eyebrows-raising bad sound, I find), and all the clips that Dan has posted — I'm strictly talking about the sound of the samples here, not Dan's wonderful music, which is the only thing I enjoyed in that thread — not in the least his Mozart mock-up (which lacks all the breezy luminosity I think the music needs), simply don't appeal to me. Not wild about the sound of the strings in Bacal's Horner mock-up posted above either (but the music itself has something to do with that as well).
Again, my apologies.
(*) Appreciation for VSL: they make no fuss about a customer returning a product, only express a little regret (totally understandable), and everything is handled smoothly and correctly.
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No apologies necessary, it's alright. I hear the sound you describe and dislike it for the same reason (I also said this on the other forum), I was just curious about your specific examples.
And yeah, there is a lot to love about the VSL approach (e.g. sampling depth, editing consistency, player functionality) and business practices (refunds), which is why the 'bad' sound stings so much. I wish I could enjoy it, then my life would be so much easier!
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Jul 26, 2023 2:03 pm
by Muziksculp
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Jul 27, 2023 1:01 pm
by Muziksculp
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Jul 28, 2023 10:24 am
by Muziksculp
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Aug 01, 2023 12:04 pm
by Muziksculp
Hi,
The Intro. pricing for VSL Synchron Duality Strings has been extended to Aug. 15th. , they also have a free demo license for the library.
Cheers,
Muziksculp
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Aug 01, 2023 12:06 pm
by Muziksculp
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Aug 01, 2023 2:15 pm
by Ashermusic
Boy Muziksculp, you are touting this more than I did Hollywood Strings when EastWest was paying me
Re: [NEW] VSL Duality Strings
Posted: Aug 01, 2023 2:36 pm
by Muziksculp
Ashermusic wrote: ↑Aug 01, 2023 2:15 pm
Boy Muziksculp, you are touting this more than I did Hollywood Strings when EastWest was paying me
LOL , How many years back was that ?
I really think Duality Strings sound awesome, imho. the best sounding VSL Strings library.
